Re: HB euph...no takers


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Posted by K on November 14, 2003 at 17:36:36:

In Reply to: HB euph...no takers posted by fascinated on November 14, 2003 at 13:30:59:

There are some reasons for the 3+1 comp euph being the preference of many of those counting themselves among ambitious euphers.

There certainly is an element of snobbery, as there is among horn players where I come from. Many want double horns, even if they never touch the F-side.

Then there are those using the euph as a small tuba. If they have been accustomed to training scales and exercises in all keys on their bass bones, then they want to be able to do the same thing on their euphs. To get the low C and B natural accurate they even might add a main tuning slide trigger to their 3+1 compers. The first attempt to challenge B&H on the Blaikley comp system was a 4-in-line front action comper from Willson. It had a main tuning slide adjusting feature in the shape of a ring for the left thumb, so the much later main tuning slide trigger can be said to have had an early forerunner.

And then the compensating system has some side effects caused by the weight of the longer pistons and casings. And also caused by the rigidity, which the many extra valve loops soldered to the pistons provide to the whole structure.

With a well made compensating euphonium one never gets the feeling of playing a toy instrument, which one can get on some of the non-comp euphs.

That certainly has a lot to do with attitude. If I tried to get as much sound out of my pre-1930 Cerveny gold brass Kaiserbariton, as I like to get out of my YEP641, then I would bomb the Cerveny.

But then the Kaiserbariton has a recognised tone quality of its own. If a player accustomed to one of the heavier compensating euphoniums in a similar situation bombs an YEP321, then he simply considers that instrument a bad euphonium.

Klaus

A PS for the freak-o-phonics:

I think Joe has a Kaiserbariton similar to mine, be it in gold brass or not. From the index of my brass galleries (the first one is mine):

Thumbnails of a pre-1930 Cerveny Bb red brass German style Kaiser Bariton with a special rotor arrangement serial # 38454:

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosvii/lst?&.dir=/Cerveny+oval+Kaiser+Bariton+pre-1930

Thumbnails of two pre-1930 Cerveny Bb red brass German style Baritonen with the same special rotor arrangement as the above item:

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosix/lst?.dir=/Cerveny+Bb+oval+Bariton+4R+pre-1930

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpmblicphotosvi/lst?&.dir=/Cerveny+Bariton+pre-1930

Thumbnails of two pre-1930 Cerveny Bb yellow brass German style Baritonen with the same special rotor arrangement as the above items:

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotos26/lst?.dir=/Cerveny+oval+Kaiserbariton+4+RV

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotos27/lst?&.dir=/1920+Cerveny+oval+Kaiserbariton+4RV

(Klaus Bjerre of Denmark
Retired teacher

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/YorkMasterPublicPhotosIII/files/
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